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		<title>EternalCraft  &#187;  Topic: Wuman&#039;s Ban Appeal for Admitting to X-Ray</title>
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					<title><![CDATA[Wuman&#039;s Ban Appeal for Admitting to X-Ray]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Wuman</dc:creator>

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						<p>Yes. To get straight to the point. I have pleaded guilty to X-Ray. Shaman has banned me, who has also said had two screenshots of me admitting that.</p>
<p>In these screenshots, (if Shaman is willingly to show) the evidence and accusation leading to a temporary twenty-four hour ban is absurd.</p>
<p>Based on the evidence that Shaman has, which includes me mining several EMERALDS in less than a period of 1 minute seem possible for X-Ray? As you all know, emeralds do not come in veins, only diamonds. Emeralds only come in one block at a time.  And since emeralds and diamonds are similar, they both give an estimate 10 exp per block mined. These screenshots show that I was gaining enormous amounts of exp in short intervals.</p>
<p>This leads to a single question. How is it possible to mine several emeralds at once? Even with X-Ray, the player would need to mine through stone, creating paths deep underground in order to reach the next precious ore. One would have to think differently. In this case, is it possible for the player to mine using a Silk Touch Pickaxe? Allowing them to gather as much ores as possible without a public message? Then, what if the player were to place all these emerald ores in a single area and mined it all at once? This seems quite possible.</p>
<p>Although I have admitted to saying that &#8216;I was X-Raying,&#8217; if the given screenshots are viewed, it is impossible to prove that I was actually X-Raying.</p>
<p>Shaman, you say that &#8220;admitting = pleading guilty&#8221;, which I agree entirely, but evidence, which is by all means, the truth and absolute truth, would of course supersede one&#8217;s speech? Is this agreeable? If this were a court room, would the judge believe a man&#8217;s word more than the evidence that shows otherwise?</p>
<p>Now, if Shaman does not wish to show the evidence of me pleading guilty and myself mining several emeralds, then it would be obvious that there is no evidence for this ban to even stand on its own unless Shaman were to give another reason without those two screenshots of evidence, then I would like to hear it.</p>
<p>Staff, Moderators, and all other players, please understand that using one&#8217;s knowledge and deduction based on true and undeniable evidence, that this temporary ban is illogical and should be removed.</p>
<p>&#8211; Sincerely</p>
<p>Wuman</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 05:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>borncorp</dc:creator>

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						<p>The EternalCracked Constitution<br />
Article 19 &#8211; MISDEMEANOR OFFENSES<br />
Section 10 &#8211; CONFESSIONS</p>
<p>(a) A player that allegedly confessed cheating is considered a cheater.<br />
(b) Cheaters under this section should be punished with up to 5 days of temporary ban.<br />
(c) HeadModerators reserve the right to extend the penalty up to 70 years depending on the severity of the offense.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Reply To: Wuman&#039;s Ban Appeal for Admitting to X-Ray]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 05:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Chibichuba</dc:creator>

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						<p>I respect your rationality and reasoning to this, which provides a side of this I previously did not think about. This one is a 24h ban, and you will be automatically unbanned when your time is up. The next time that this might happen, it would be a permanent ban.</p>
<p>Moderators are able to watch x-rayers as they mine for these ores, and it is not solely based on the notification that you see in global chat. We also have quite a few other references that can lead us to the conclusion that someone is x-raying, although not those references alone.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If you have any further issues, feel free.</p>
<p>&#8211; Chibichuba</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 05:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>HurricaneGZ</dc:creator>

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						<p>Hey Wuman, let&#8217;s get straight to the point. I&#8217;ll answer that one particular question. How many people in EternalCracked uses a silk touch pickaxe to mine emerald ore, and then to break it when you reach your house, just to get emerald? Well, that is unless you are selling those emerald ores.</p>
<p>You may state all these, that you used a silk touch pickaxe to get emerald ores, and then break it in one place, but if Shaman already have evidence that you were X-raying, all your arguments is invalid. Think about it, moderators <strong>ARE NOT</strong> dumb. Even if you bought emerald ores to get emerald, why? For experience? Mine coal! Anyone newcomers would know that. You could have just gotten the emerald itself. <strong>Also</strong>, if you broke it with silktouch, how can you get so much ores with silktouch? Don&#8217;t tell me that you &#8220;stored&#8221; all the emerald ores just to break it.</p>
<p>All these just lead to one straightfoward answer: <strong>You Were X-raying. </strong></p>
<p>Just admit it, and also, just recieve your punishment. Wrong is wrong, period. <em><strong>For me, i&#8217;ll give this appeal a down.</strong></em> The decision is all left to Shaman or the rest of the mods. It&#8217;s only a 24h ban.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>&#8211; HurricaneGZ</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Wuman</dc:creator>

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						<p>Borncorp,</p>
<p>If there were such a constitution, with so many articles and sections, why isn&#8217;t it placed in the rules section? Currently I do not see such a rule stated in this tab. Something so important should be seen clearly, otherwise many people would not figure it out.</p>
<p>Chibichuba,</p>
<p>The problem is that Shaman DID NOT watch me mine. He immediately banned me as soon as he saw the global chat filled with &#8220;Wuman has mined EMERALD and gained 80+ Experience!&#8221; which is approximately after 1 or 2 minutes! If he did, he would see that I was not X-Raying.</p>
<p>Hurr0caneGZ,</p>
<p>You are completely wrong. Shaman has screenshot evidence of me ADMITTING to X-Ray, not X-Raying itself. And you may think that it is ridiculous for someone to store all those emerald ores to mine later, but it is true, I have done so. I have mined all my emerald ores with Silk Touch Pickaxes because there is no use in having emeralds as I get my emerald supply from somewhere else. Also there is actual proof of that right now on top of my building, there are traces of my emerald ores waiting to be mined. I never once believed a moderator is DUMB, I completely respect their authority and their willingness to help the endlessly amount of players.</p>
<p>I do not care about the 24-hour ban, what I care about is the inability to use reasoning and hard cold evidence that supports Shaman for banning me. Moderators do not ban on a whim, they should have good substantial proof to ban. For all future bans, I hope this does not happen to an innocent player.</p>
<p>-With all due respect</p>
<p>Wuman</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>maxminoS</dc:creator>

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						<p>You can&#8217;t see when Headmods are looking at you while you&#8217;re mining thats how it works wuman.</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Wuman</dc:creator>

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						<p>MaxminoS.</p>
<p>I am well aware of moderators being able to /vanish and teleporting to players, in this case where I was mining, which is on top of the roof of my building of approximately Y=75 coordinate, being impossible for for emeralds to even naturally occur. This concludes that Shaman has banned me for &#8216;Admitting to X-Ray,&#8217; which is not even seen explicitly on the given rules tab.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>-Wuman</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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						<p>Wuman, I did ban you for admitting to x-ray. As you quoted me above, &#8216;admitting = pleading guilty&#8217; which you wrote right after writing that, &#8220;which I agree entirely.&#8221; So I am presuming you agree with me that we can infer that you x-rayed. If you did not x-ray, (as you state above), then why did you admit to it? Why would you lie about such a thing when you know the consequences? This matter is not a joke and the security of the server should not be taken so.</p>
<p>As you requested, here are the pictures:</p>
<p><a href="http://imgur.com/hFQpp" rel="nofollow">http://imgur.com/hFQpp</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="http://imgur.com/pBKye" rel="nofollow">http://imgur.com/pBKye</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Wuman</dc:creator>

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						<p>Shaman,</p>
<p>But, inferring that without proof of actually X-Raying is displeasing. You&#8217;ve taken for word that my statements were true even without looking into it. If I were to say &#8220;That person is X-Raying, he is ruining the server,&#8221; then you&#8217;d immediately ban him as well? Then no one would even be able to mine!  You&#8217;ve completely ignored the other factors of evidence given. Bringing up only what I have said and only inferring to that is not what people should do. Bring in all the evidence together and use that.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve admitted to X-Raying because I can say whatever I please that is not against the rules.</p>
<p>Rule 4. No Custom Clients, Advantaging Mods, Cheats, or Bug Abuse.</p>
<p>This does not state you cannot &#8220;say&#8221; that you are doing such a thing. No implications of it whatsoever.</p>
<p>The only rule I see that fits for punishment is 5. No Tricking or Luring Players. And as for that, a ban is not necessary.</p>
<p>If this as serious as you say it is, rewrite the rules, state clearly that anything against the security of the server.</p>
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